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Anoel ([personal profile] anoel) wrote2008-04-13 03:41 pm
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The Oz ending



Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo :( Gah they ripped my heart out, fucked me over and left me weeping on the floor. This stupid show. My poor tragic Beecher/Keller. I still can't believe it. I mean, Toby saved Chris's LIFE! I was SO incredibly happy and ecstatic and felt like the world was won. And I had upped my body count for tragic couples! And I was really hoping Toby would stay out of trouble and he could just visit Chris in jail all the time where they could kiss to their heart's content. I believed they had a chance! And I felt so bad for Chris not getting a life outside with Toby, I wished it could happen even though this being tragic love story I knew it wouldn't. But to have Toby kill Chris? Gah that was the worst. I had seen Chris get pushed off the balcony in a vid but I didn't think he had DIED. They sure fooled me. The worst part is I get why it had to happen. Chris screwed up Toby's parole which I was so pissed about but I understand why he couldn't face a life without the one thing he loved. In the end his love while pure was also an addiction and one he couldn't shake, one he couldn't survive without and which was too tainted with the violence they had both committed and what he would do. It still fucking SUCKS though. Poor Beecher. They at least got a last kiss. This is definitely one of the worst heartbreakers a show has ever given me and one of the worst I've had such a raw, uncontrolled, grief filled reaction to a tragic death or ending.

I love this show, I really do but it really takes a toll out of me in the hope department. I still think Beecher will get out of Oz and live a happy life with his family one day but there's not a lot I can hope. It's worse than The Wire in that department. But it does inspire me at the same time to want to do something to help this messed up world. And it is probably the best example I've seen of the lesson that revenge and the cycle of violence and hate doesn't help anything and it's best to let it go and forgive. I will try to take that to heart. Said's death was also shocking and heartbreaking for me. After Beecher and Keller he was my favorite and I really admired him for his honor and principles. Cyril was probably the second most heartbreaking death, the TWO times it happened. I am so sickened by this world sometimes. This show frustrated me a lot by not giving me my Beecher/Keller especially in S5 but I will thank them for the wonderful kissing we did get in S6. One of my favorite seasons was the first half of S4 which was just amazing in showing an attempt at reform and how messed up it was and kept me in suspense every episode. I'm sickened that Quarns is now warden although I'm not surprised. In the end, I hated Devlin ie the Devil the most because lying, cheating, heartless scum that APPEARS to be good is what I hate the most.

Wow. I can't believe it's over but it's definitely an amazing example of what Television can do.



Well it definitely made me against the death penalty although I was mostly against it anyways. And I've had about enough of tragic love stories for the time being.

Okay now I need some happy and Doctor Who is a perfect way to do that, yay!

[identity profile] clayangel.livejournal.com 2008-04-13 08:01 pm (UTC)(link)
*hugs* Hi, I love you. ^______^ How are you doing, sugar?

[identity profile] anoel.livejournal.com 2008-04-13 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks *hugs* I'm good for the most part. Just trying to do the best I can each day.

[identity profile] clayangel.livejournal.com 2008-04-13 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
You should make some plans. I always have plans to do something or other, big or small, in the near future. Anything from a trip to a movie coming out to simply getting tuna teriyaki as a treat at the end of the week. Just something to look forward to, and a therapist I once had said that was a good thing to do. It helps.

[identity profile] anoel.livejournal.com 2008-04-14 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah that's a good idea. I will try to come up with some things :)

[identity profile] kalimyre.livejournal.com 2008-04-13 08:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, Beecher/Keller, also known as the most screwed up couple in the history of ever. Seriously, so much between them, how they've hurt each other and saved each other and their relationship is so not healthy but in a place like that, you hold on to what you have.

There is fic, you know. Fluffy happy fic where they do actually get out, where things are different. And also angsty, scary, awesome fic where Keller survives the fall and they carry on in their twisted way, which I think is actually better. It's more them, the only happy ending they could really have.

[identity profile] anoel.livejournal.com 2008-04-13 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that's them. I knew that going in but I couldn't help but keep hoping. Very true though, trying to find a little love in all that they have to go through.

Yay fic! I will definitely be reading lots of fanfic to make up for the lack of time we didn't get to see and some more happy stuff. But I like angsty too! And I agree, that's the best in the end. I was just hoping they'd both make it out alive so I could have the hope they'd still have each other in the future canonwise.

[identity profile] illusionaltzu.livejournal.com 2008-04-22 04:49 am (UTC)(link)
Don't just read it -- join us! Write it! :)

[identity profile] anoel.livejournal.com 2008-04-22 04:51 am (UTC)(link)
Sadly I suck at writing fic and can't get beyond my fear of writing characters OOC. I want to vid them though!

[identity profile] illusionaltzu.livejournal.com 2008-04-22 04:57 am (UTC)(link)
I'll head over and check out your vids, then. :)

[identity profile] mozartfan1313.livejournal.com 2008-04-14 04:08 am (UTC)(link)
Wow. You and I have very different opinions of the relationship between Keller and Beecher. lol. To me, it was very much a love/hate relationship. I think Beecher fell for Keller because, initially, he saw him as a comforting type of protection, while Keller was just a sadistic animal who would sleep with anyone. He was a very brutal human being, yet, at certain moments, Beecher brought out a softer side of Keller. However, I don't know that I'm 100% convinced that Keller was in love with Beecher. I have no doubt that Beecher was madly in love with Keller, as his life was out of control and he needed a shoulder to lie on. But Keller was selfish, sadistic and cruel, for the most part, and, if you truly love someone, you don't screw up their parole. Love means understanding that sacrifice is involved and that, if it was love, Keller should have wanted Beecher to be happy and have freedom. Keller just struck me more as someone who loved Beecher's attention and likely cared for him a lot. However, if the roles were reversed Beecher NEVER would have screwed up Keller's parole because he loved him too much.

I'm in the middle of re-watching S4 at the moment. lol.

As for Said, I agree with you. Although I didn't always agree with him values and opinions on certain topics I always found him a comforting presence in OZ. Cyril's death is so sad, especially because that rat, Ryan O'Riley, is the one who messed up his life in every possible way and he gets to live!

I actually met Lee Tergensen (Beecher) and Dean Winter (Ryan) when they came to Toronto to promote the show while it was in its final season. It was great hearing them talk about their characters and how they developed over the seasons. It's definately one of the best shows television has had.

[identity profile] anoel.livejournal.com 2008-04-15 06:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Well yeah it was love/hate but I think in the end they had a real love that transcended all the crap that went on in prison. I do firmly believe that Keller was in love with Beecher but that he was too messed up as a human being to truly love him ie not mess with his parole. Beecher wasn't as messed up as Beecher, he gave from a good family and even though he took a downturn in prison, he was able to get out of it so yeah I think he would never have screwed up Keller's parole. They obviously didn't have the highest form of love but that doesn't mean it's not love. Beecher isn't entirely blameless either in that he should never have fell for Keller's plan knowing that no love should ever have to come close to losing him his freedom again.

Keller would sleep with anyone because as he said he was always thinking with his dick but now finally he wants to "share his love with someone". I think calling him a "sadistic animal" is really harsh and seeing things in black and white. He was never sadistic, he didn't like to hurt people, he did things for a reason, bad reasons motivated by revenge and even love and he had a bad moral code but he was a person with a lot of conflicted actions. He dud sacrifice in the whole pretending to murder Hank but when he actually had a chance to see Beecher everyday and hear about his life and be stuck in Oz again, he just couldn't help himself. It's tragic where I'm standing because in a different world I DO think they could be together but the circumstances just didn't work themselves out.

But yeah about Said. Not always agreeing but at least he tried to be good. I do think Ryan messed up Cyril's life but he did love him so much (that scene with him holding him KILLED me) that I could never completely hate him for it.

Wow you're so lucky! I would have loved to meet Lee and Dean. I definitely agree with you there. I'm still really affected by it, the emotional and thematic effect is just so huge. It hurts to think about it sometimes but I have the upmost respect for it.

[identity profile] mozartfan1313.livejournal.com 2008-04-16 03:15 am (UTC)(link)
First things first: I'm so glad I have someone on my FList who wants to discuss OZ. I think I only have one or two other people on my list who even watch the show! ;)

You made a good point about Keller. It's definately possible that it was genuine love for Keller, however, he couldn't express it because of his emotional state. Once I re-watch the final season again, my opinion may change.

I can't remember, but what got Keller in prison? Rape? My mind has gone blank as to what his crime was. Either way, his often violent nature always made me feel like I had to keep his character at a distance. I love that a show can make me feel uncomfortable about liking certain characters and this is something that the writers of OZ did so well. We are fully aware these are terrible human beings, yet we are given free range on what we think of them, as an audience.

[identity profile] anoel.livejournal.com 2008-04-19 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah I doubted anyone on my Flist watched it so I was pleasantly surprised when I found out you did :)

To be exact his crime was: "Convicted June 16, '98, felony murder, two counts attempted murder, assault with a deadly weapon, robbery, driving while under the influence, reckless driving. Sentence: 88 years. Up for parole in 50". He didn't have to rape anyone, his charm got him his four wives but then he had the two (three?) guys he had sex with and then killed. It sounds bad but I couldn't help but like him although his charisma and seductive nature help there. He never struck me as a hateful or horrible guy, just one that didn't have much of a moral code and was willing to kill to achieve what he wanted. I don't mind liking people who do terrible things so I don't have a big problem with it but it can be difficult at times. I just love seeing the humanity and goodness in people even if it's only a small part and a love that can overcome all that is amazing to me.

[identity profile] mozartfan1313.livejournal.com 2008-04-20 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks for the reminder of what his conviction was. For the life of me, I couldn't remember.

I think that, when I watched OZ, I distanced myself from the characters by looking at them as what they were: brutal criminals. Had these characters been a part of everyday life (had in not been set in prison but on a city street) I would have loathed them with every fiber of my being. However, because of their incarcerations, it was easier to find more likable characters amongst "their own people." Does that make any sense? lol.