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Anoel ([personal profile] anoel) wrote2009-08-22 10:21 pm
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Vividcon 2008: Panel/Vidshow Reviews Notes and Short Con Report

A year late but here are all my panel and vidshow review notes from Vividcon 2008 (although a few pages are missing, that's why I used a notebook this year):



Color
-wizard of oz - made red=power, [dorothy] had it all along -pale blue: had no effect, youth, inexperience
-run lola run-red hair, kept tense
-orange: original thing, creativity, insanity
-thelma -self-sufficient, farther from heaven, louise-homes turquioise, no effect-> more ?
-yellow: nostalgia
-rosemary's baby-yellow house
-purple: transformative (change) -dead ghost
-sixth sense - purple dress-transformative
-green: nature, jungle
-not in nature: poison, danger
-virgin suicides - green poison
-matrix- not there, wrong
-red: life, vitality
-wizard of oz- hourglass w/witch
-lola-hair makes interesting
-sixth sense-blanket
-blue: tranquil, no investment, cold
-sixth sense-blue walls of funeral, no family warmth
-sixth sense- red box
-sixth sense-orange shirt on mother with soup, blue room, monochrome dad w/?
-red, jaded mom, roses
-taxi - yellow, red, green - psychotic obsession, yellow flower, red ? object of lust, poison theater, yellow ? on face
-blade runner - under blue light, cant save self (tears in rain)
-difference in color experience (international)
-rage: red ...yellow/black, tranquil: light blue
-apocalypse now: ? orange, smoke green/yellow->slow change to ?/red smoke->?, purple smoke
-american beauty: red, white, blue
-american traffic: golden nostalgic?
-godfather-wedding, ivory ?: youth -dark rich ...? gold sunlight, wealth...power: red, gold desaturation




What do We Want From Vids Now
-entertain - 1) pretty 2) comedy 3) learn something new
-piece of me - meta?/tension
-walk the line: strange source
-MTV: sell story, pictures go alone, fannish: music tells story
-create personal? narrative (does it exist?)
-make vid to feel something
-limitations of vidding now unlimited
-use bodies but story - ooc?
-not much trailer vs vidding community
-make credits pretty but didn't get what would be written (house/sga vid)
-orgin stories: political within text, look at doing
-see text as pop culture vs. context
-original vids
-reasons to vid: less emotional squee, pursue themes, recreate synthesis, lose viewers but okay w/that role in community




Music Theory and Comp.
-orchestra underneath, hard cut
-long legato = slow motion, dreamy
-unusual (hand) something go wrong
-louder, chaotic, happy chord ->creep this is it, enjoy
-lots of fast cut/accelerate vs. visuals, build up suspense, expect fast
-swirl upwards with music
-dont hold on long note, boring so get louder or softer, whooshy moment gets wax/waning
-phrases in four so can rhyme
-compare come up: on beat vs. off, not quite right and hot?
-spiriti - up beat, hiccupping, whats going on
-accents on 1,3 on down beat, 4 is upbeat, drum emphasize 2 and 4, listen to word accents
-Hustle is ska vid
-sunshine in life -synchopated
-solsbury hill in 7 meters (4 + 3), important things happen on extended 8
-rook in 6 meters
-we can work it out - harbor: mixed meter




How to Reinvent Yourself
-technical evolution: know what can do with it, stubborn, premiere vs. after effects
-don't get intimidated by new equipment, break it into pieces
-try different effects one by one
-work on after effects tutorial, then learn how it applies to vidding, improves creativity
-trash video, play everything (sandbox)
-can tell new stories with new equipment
-"shiny new stuff" different music (Club Vivid), recontextualize, use outside source
-dont get vids, dont connect, take time
-more and more vids, cool and different, lots of ripples-> used to take longer to spread new technique ex. Language
-needs to shake vidding world, push evolution vs. make vid that makes you happy
-don't need bells + whistles
-incestuous communities dont learn other ways to do things
-melting pot of vids/coming to con
-why so focused on not making the same thing
-organic, not forced, doesnt have to be groundbreaking
-cant rush growth, dont have to change everything at once
-everyone has learning curve
-dont delete first vid, piece of them, can see approach
-no magic wand
-sometimes we only see growth after the fact
-bored by source so change
-can't help who we are, dont try to be someone else




Town Hall
-documentary for new media literary
-jenkins asked laura to do documentary, asked ces, sent out emails
-if we don't make it, who makes it
-reviewed by OTW lawyers, if trouble comes, have arguments
-vidding will make you better, more moral
-DIY: curating Genealogy of Vidding, go over history, aesthetics, also in big main screen
-impressed we have artists who came, ? names, organized, others didnt
-Lum: October, Jenkins wrote to let show Logan Hill at NY Magazine, show any vids (no preference), can put in magazine, want to do interview, had impression of 19 year old college boy, wrote essay, talked to OTW so not to be sued, unprepared for reaction, videos taken down from imeem, took up on other sites
-general public considered strengths differently than Lum did
-reaction to women's work was overwhelming, positive/negative, sexism/race issues talked about more, Lum becomes frozen
-collective effort to go viral, put more up
-imeem is visibility-> complaint not from copyright, red flag was put up
-imeem has deal w/snowcap, song set to licensed, then they can be more lenient, all ad revenue goes to music company
-takedowns on Youtube from visual source
-Youtube will take down w/o having DMCA ?
-Ironman triggered might resemble image, company dont have time to check/care
-Lum wrote to iMeem, user complaint and questioned, got silenced, deleted hit count
-scary news: better filtering software is coming, it concerns a LOT of people
-watching fight of titans (godzilla)
-set of Best practices for user generated video, dolphins vs. tuna, we are not tuna, we are dolphins, us citizens have rights to transform
-putting up political clip is political
-if corporation thinks it can own something, it will, doesnt expect little to go up against big
-hurting your brand, not a right
-center for social media/remixes
-EFF: things are legal, heres why
-corporations try to make other governments to do other things
-secret agreement going to take down fair use, end photocopy
-impose corporate needs, UK filter/moniter for audio/soft measures ex. UK ISPs, warning system 3 chances
-comcast throttle, usenet, ISPs take down usenet b/c child porn group
-Google vs. Viacom, not alone, user generate is going to be making $$ in future
-privacy/information sharing gains - who watches what vids to Viacom, not going to see after less money
-NY upheld use of Imagine, can use in context?
-important fight but less creative, entire stuff fights over
-can lose to corporations/change in social conditions but how to gain
-who is speaking for me, get live action vid in fair use project
-con chair exposes, more out on job, run con, discover fannish, people to say its legal can allow people who dont to be
-closet metaphor: emotional dangers, end goal is all society can introduce it
-political partner: fic porn made bad candiate (in political race)
-like being underground -> Youtube is VISIBLE
-slash/fanfic not defined in newspaper
-being out as fandom/personal, some fans need to be more in
-don't need to out individuals for community




Vid Review
Old School Slash
Why Walk When You Can Fly
-team making a family, more old school, felt like family
-great old school, transcend that, walk up steps, see full team, heart clench
-not slash vid, loved that, team vid
-treated to get excitement of being in space
-title, flying w/Sheppard
Synergy
-loved vid, didnt like show
-had progression, storyline, angst, great song/images
-dont know, very clear, aww
liked it too, song choice, literalism problem, end wash down drain w/drink, brilliant
-liked gestured, fingerpoint
-made hard show to vid, dont expect to see, good use of clips
Peacemakers
-sad vid, midway things are hard but things look up, in it together, side by side
-know source, need to understand, uplifting
Song Choice
To Touch The Face of God
-instrumental helped, no lyrics interupting, made me cry, beautiful out of the way, narrative tight, accessible
-joyous, I remember this, we did this
-feel audience react, w/group fandom
-had iconic moment it builds up, boot moon (?), can't remember specific, looks in head
-captured world, whats out there
-benefits from being seen big
-look back to kennedy, big, epic
-Data's Dream
This World
-visuals beautiful, song jarred, love/hate
-song distracted, pitch of voice
-song set mood for vid
-hard music for BSG, got infused with hope, lifted up, these people had future
-terrific, music worked well
-song thought it support many types of songs, wide range show
-didn't remember music, lyrical style, movement, editing, carries away into the vid, inside it
-loved song, high eerie voice, dissonance b/c words of hope vs. exploding, still isolation, desert grasping at hope
-dragging lyrics from deeps?, pulling from you, mesh together hopeful vision
Dreams
­-piano, fun house perfect for dreams
-made show different, feel different
-titles brilliant, brought into world, use of overlays/dissolves
-open w/familiar clips, new visual connections, further into dream
-opening worked so well, remarkable
-create universe
-hypnotic
Beautiful Struggle
-one of favorite songs, used music beautifully, breathtaking
-political problem about revolution, don't see change, not inappropiate
-not underclass uprising
-disconnect of magical world/?
-real life issues: racism/sexism, worked better with last movie
-loved w/music, loved concept, lyrics disconnect, hard sell
-w/commentary, political conscious, not from vids
-liked political, liked rhythm, great song, American, democrats/republicans threw out
-republicans worked ->ministry
-hard to decontextualize, contrast song, hip hop-harry not going to work, made see in different way
Torchwood
Try Not to Breathe
-Jack lonely, melachony, suffocated opening ?, hold on, what gets through it
-moment: grave buried
-holds onto everything
-REM fan, about childhood, made it Jack, sold, recontextualizes
Wanderer
-reaching out, brighter lighting
-melancholy, still alone, can show but waiting for answer
Motion
Love Turns 40
-tension filled dramatic, build
-turn head to look, tension
-didn't feel long
-moves chaotic motion, attack w/faces, then hit, has to be still
-best as visual/music, composed movie w/vid in mind, echoed pole, circular
-made source move, parallels
-close up heads hard to vid, clausterphobic, feel what they feel, no escape
-close up as a weapon controlled in how to use
-progression towards/away, watch up (?), so much more emotion, use of camera motion, blend visual/thematic
-worked w/intercutting between similar scenes, cheating/betrayal, kiss told story
-parallel character, effect with matching visuals, worked well, cool
Highway
-blurb helped, took away context, meant to be taken literally
-worked best with con
-throws out, non Daniel Daniet, not similar enough
-fannish in joke, daniel's dead again
-wanted to cut song
Creep
-switch povs works, what just happened, makes vid to talk back
-loved, didnt get pairings, got characters
-liked, felt emotionally, pov shift brilliant but for a second left unsettled, didnt know if it was a return or about ?
-liked, pov shift problematic, spike -> faith, didnt work but then did
The Horror
-visual disturbed, also by musical, no idea, too much happening for me
-half the point, doesn't know what's going on, point to confuse, what putting through
-horror confusion, bugs, life not own
-felt like things lying on the table, bugs got dropped, didn't carry through
-opening/ending - frames well, so much of message
-sci fic bugs = junkies
-great curiosity, vid left out, loved source, something different
Four Seasons In One Day
-beautiful, Peter integral
-every clip has so much to say, sleep on an unmade bed -> mirror
-no metaphor to make up/could follow metaphor, blood -> rain
-metaphor accessible, knew brothers so clear w/control, no lit/metaphor, blood ->family
Mandara
-pretty, vidded to book
-enjoyed, issues w/movies b/c book, all good stuff from movie (leaves vid?)
-sandstorm glowed it was dune, woman's hand w/worm underneath
I Quit
-strong narrative
-too literal, where she quit, she didn't
-vid overrode song question then sold
-reduces what Martha did, reduces relationship w/guy, not just Doctor. I quit narrows down
-she knows ship isn't working but the work is important
45
-amazing, which Adama, all look a like, shot of ? to tell you
-stood out, great build/tension and emotion
-worked well with closeups had shaky made it tense even in quiet moment
-music was superlative
-older guy yay, text oriented, viper told what about
-relationship not normally seen, new angle
-new/fresh
-confused to see young
-beautiful, interest, vid fatigue, seen enough ships
Use It
-recruiter vid, need to see more
-action in show push it along, what part of action to show
-very little facial expressions, didnt see it, kept waiting
Here It Goes
-more short moments to create action, wanted movement to support, expected more to move forward, fast, fun con vid
-action was not action per se, was slash reaction, didnt need, examination was emotional relationship, characters relationship to environment
-Flan's face - twitching, welcome to my secret
-voiceovers - not a fan but helpful/necessary
I Am A Drug
-music over dialogue worked
-didnt need lyrics, set up to it
-gives reason for laugh, to insert montage
-works well, voiceover hilarious, works in show, no one else knows on show
-about the addiction, own character, helped take right into it
-opposed but perfect setup
-loved the way it moved, brilliant flow, synethesia, blood striking things
Life Begins Again
-loved vid, story of show, specific names faces mean to people who know
-shot w/text, "sentenced to murder", picked up the frame
-opposite text reaction, distracts, couldnt associate with people
-worked on both levels, got context, loved bars, prison, railings, still imprisoned
-combination of jails ? yellow/light, reach toward freedom
Black Black Heart
-visuals werent in original source, watch other things, build a world
-mood, tone, foreboding, convincing
-intrigued the most
-present w/our interpretation
-about surveilance
-revenge/seduction
Scrapbook of My Life
-excited, fannish pov, John doodling, guess what's going on
-felt like fanart, so much original
-if pairing/fandom way didnt work, dont care
-fun different
-meta vid, vidders vidding footage, redre? scenes to know, comment on fan text
-fannish pleasure -pictionary, hair = John
Stength In You
-clear relationship
-wanted shorter, same thing
-waiting for something to happen, wanted more
-loved switch how rory needed lorelai, switch around
-focus on two of them, focus of them reminded of slash vid
-wondered mother-daughter
-impressed w/o talking heads
Anna Begins
-visually fascinating, is house interested in this woman
-told story well, broke heart
-color panel, saturated color, red dress, cool
King of Spain
-adorable, loved it
-energy, light hearted, got what needed
-get dynamic, loved spinning, motion
-adored vid, felt club?, songs narrative took out with cutting, missed a bit
-no embarrassment squick, took out
Picture Frame
-love of violence shines through
-hapiness under lies, flashing faces of cool
Supersmart
-changed at end, stealth meta vid, didnt see coming, build good
-only disappointment, wanted women of sga
-continually great, we we bring (?)
-lost in middle, boys are girls too, confused, stepped back so slided back into meta, how dynamic switched w/o change, more powerful, we are gods
-us w/heroes, heuristic bothered me, SGA vid->embarrassment squick
-men through me, like men, only better
-we are the women, works against b/c wanted vid
-asserted argument rather than arguing, not beautiful build, disconcert _?
-Elizabeth->John, where you are reading LJ may impact, pretty princess, sga injoke, may transition
-guys ineffectual, helped meta
-middle as bitter then got end, fuck you
Who Cares
-crucial intro, hard to hear
-sent to you, understanding based on
-see characters saying vs. over black
-heard clown, bones and expect clowns
-privillege text, so read on screenm audio not heard
-w/o changes, shows answer to question, why shot clown, works perfectly
Handlebars (IM)
-I can do anything, so beware, gets more power, triumph and arc
-loved both vids to handlebars, strength of playful, contradiction, know stark ?
-creepy, Tony as god
-political, critique of American power
-didn't quite work, yay power, kid fantasy, 12 year old but vid didnt drop down to all? a fantasy, failed for (ego trip)
-loved visual quality, yes yay but something wrong, Stark looked like overgrown boy, breakable expressions, used brakes as lose balance
-didn't see, political, not triumphant, brought real world, creepy
Handlebars (DW)
-ominous, doctor doesn't need
-lack of respect for power of tardis
-snap fingers, forget relation to power
-saw it as new step in relationship
-wish amnesia with first vid, second heard song, build would have better, bad coming
-brilliance in last clip snap -smile, new to Doctor Who, didn't know scary, serial killer with smile is creepy, so lovable builds reaction, so destructive like fire




In Depth Vid Review
Gloria
-make her mind as a weapon
-favorite, first character study of sarah,good vid meta + constructed reality
-good Cameron/Sarah meta but also as ship, uses canon, loved construction
-first half -> second (didn't work), set up, story that builds, didn't connect
-road is iconic, iconic end, pink means different, grindhouse
-wanted to love, love all components, didn't work, transitions don't set at that moment, miss textual...
-...moments, easier to see as constructed reality
-canon crystallations: nightmares punching in wall, as terminator, nonhuman strength, seeing through others eyes, component self pedaled by show
-object fantasy, dangerous sex toy, under Sarah's control
-first half: sarah's life alone, no one else, hates but uses as a tool, John's minimal presence, no boys, construction works
-how two characters broaden horizon, wants to broaden horizons, forced to grow, create feelings, change in cameron
-yesterday didn't work, enjoyed canon, flip was offputing (don't go)
-vertical vid: up and down, force to go forwards, stripes in live force to go up, posture sarah straight, cameron straight line, rows, bars, staircases, vertical until Cameron is a woman to be desired and then horizontal
-bend, spin then watch out
-two shots badass: work together
-low desaturated palette then fire is desire, warm colors
-Cameron a machine, Sarah comfort in that way, in ballet scene, she's more
-string comes up (Gloria), cameron goes around
-introduces Cameron, suddenly put in Sarah's eyes looking at Cameron in her head, pulled into pov of Sarah saw what she wanted

Climbing Up The Walls
-Dead End sign says everything, it can't end up anywhere
-claustrophobic, trapped, so clear
-devotion to siblings, this will make monsters to cross line (parallels)
-threw out except for Alec source
-2nd time, close parallels with old, young, then parents, build to where it's going with protectiveness, want to protect, feel helpless, slide to inc?
-spirals, bars, sex posed on bars, becomes prison, stills of kisses, because of stills, from actual source
-opening of 3 fandoms, scenery image, blood and family, impending doom
-all external, but at the very end see them as monsters as they see themselves
-they mean so well, hurts so much, ?aved to good, turn I'll be there=cant get away from me, tortured by good intentions
-older pov, they will die, sell soul
-younger have crisis, feel pain, older just see older, you hurt, hurt pov
-younger as victim but as Wahan? as predator as children??
-predator from beginning
-traps us into w/cluster, color blend in source, deadest Sam, incest tropes: no boundaries, meta of boundary of bad, wrong, children images, youre fucking them, why feel so well
-pier?? rescue her, creeps up as close, predatory that way
-tech: aspect widest, so cropped, claustrophobia
-establish AU pref in 3 different shows, why wrong, make obvious
-dirty and wrong but dont want to live in it, visual increases impact
-favor of Aus, photo manip, outside stuff, loved but fell off
-by that point, special circumstances, really special, not for everyday use, sucked in by setup, admire tech but mostly hot, dragged kicking and screaming
-all ships become mainstream, its hot but wrong, needed to be said
-whirlpool blood, downward spiral, messed up by still fucked
-normally no manips, the prison theme worked, trapt w/kiss, no getting out of, chains, bondage now enjoy
-technically great, a;; externalized, not enough perceptions
-stills impose external pov, outsider observer, people watching (dad)
-wasnt sure if on show
-felt less simon/river, bell button River
-bars, Nathan through bars at school, kids parallel peter/nathan, he sees horror of kids




Challenge
What We Had
-loved parallel of Rose and Master, overshadowed them, both held up as comparisons
-only two he mourns losing, absolute grief at losing, behind forgotten
-Mickey abandoned, all chose to leave vs. Rose, Master
Tear You Apart
-FU: River, took forever to figure out
-Simon, blood, deeply drawn in
-only get a fraction of it
-unique Firefly, good external, a lot but still Firefly vid
-look back, joiking, God -> fix you inspiration ?
Modern Man
-FU: external
-song drives vid more than others, lyrics drive vid, song expresses what to say, illustrate rather than say
Don't Think Twice
-FU: something to talk about, what carol didnt do
-nostalgia to LJ
How Much Is That Geisha in the Window?
-loved vid since blurb, flat out there with what it said, text of whom was ? word
-beautiful ex. better to visualize arguments, good use of Inara
-word intended, race problemitizes word, ways in which Firefly falls into gendered/racial parts
-no lyrics still made it effective
-amazing ex. of fetishizing Eastern
-"good dog"
-repetition of Chinese, drive home asian influence
Sorry
-adored it, leave her alone on LJ, get Lana back (ended creepy moment)
-built up, unfortunate life, heres when we get to see this power could have more
-parallel of hero/villain
-voyeur image gaze as control, meta on cultural, male gaze
-user her to get to each other, Lana says not going to fuck by proxy
-Lana never could be herself without being [blank]
Down With Sickness
-fun, psychotic rage
-FU by dying, I'll dye to spite
Don't Tell Me Nothing
-Denzel FU to America (says to him back)
-motion well done, subtle
Get Low
-FU: women ->guys
-awesome scathing critique of rap music
-rape by revenge, own self
-relieved when she kicked ass
-repeated use of get low
Want You
-Dean fucks dead people
-worked beautifully w/changes in music, external source was amazing
-if effects stripped away, still good
Transylvania
-awesome loved remix, loved Lilah personifying darkness
-after resonant, sex then kills
-needed context
White America
-FU: vidder to ?
-fandom to forgive pretty men
-women for forgiving violence or pretty and white or victims
-more racialized footage
-FU to TV execs
-Veronica Mars: like victim so don't have to choose to be part
-Robin should have been hero, Wallace too
-subversive, raise chos?...
-Veronica Mars: class, look like you, so not as afraid because white
-displacement of rage, for being comfortable of white
-Fuck You pretty on outside, pretty underneath
-can write off black people but I look like you so you see me as a threat=characters underground spy
-Eminem critiques his success in black genre (enjoys success), critique fandom for talking issues while enjoy source
-felt judged, condemned, uncomfortable
-lyrics problematic of white entitlement
-FU for hypocritical
-after confederate flag, jarred so hard to figure out how to feel
-wanted more judgmental, more parents threatened
-strong pov of spike/dean rebels condemns lyrics and pov (extra layer of subversion)
-case studies were very different, all very different, maybe whiteness carrys through, (class) not tight enough parallel, have more race in SPN, Robin with Spike, Wallace with Veronica
-wasn't successful, powerful song, complicate appropriate but didn't get from vid


As usual, let me know if you have any corrections or want attribution for anything notes here and sorry if it's hard to understand.

It's been a year so this con report is about as much as I can remember from last year. Damn procrastination perfectionism!



On Thursday I remember working out briefly with [personal profile] counteragent and running on the street earlier to let out my emotions. I met my roommate, [personal profile] talitha78 and we had a great conversation about shows she should watch. I had dinner with [personal profile] deejay, Kandy Fong, Linda T and someone else I'm forgetting where they told stories about what VCR vidding, cons, Star Trek and creators and other topics that was really interesting to hear.

On Friday it was fun meeting people in the morning (no way I'll remember everyone), seeing the great Color panel and actually wearing a dress for the first time in forever for Club Vivid. Super fun dancing to all the vids including Cobrastyle bring super Lex sexiness and Superstar which I had always imagined dancing to in the chorus. I think the Doctor Who party was after that and it was especially fun talking to [personal profile] kuwdora and [personal profile] butterfly.

On Saturday, I remember arriving early to wait for Premieres with [personal profile] bradcpu, [personal profile] obsessive24, [profile] millylicious, [personal profile] buffyann, [personal profile] laurashapiro, [personal profile] jarrow and many more. The Premieres show blew my mind and made me cry after Scrapbook of My Life/Strength in You and at the end with Supersmart because YES that is us being super awesome. Lots of squeeing about the vids and telling the vidders how much I loved them after that. Totally freaking out about karaoking Superstar and shaking so bad but doing it and being brave and doing the best I could with it. I think then I went to the Slings & Arrows party (I may be mixing days up here) and got fully pimped into watching the show (and falling in love) with it.

Sunday, I remember lots of good vids coming out in the Challenge show and sitting around in the hotel lobby with [profile] queenzulu, [profile] veredus, [personal profile] elz, [personal profile] deejay, [personal profile] axiom_of_stripe and others I'm forgetting talking fanfic, vids and spending an hour or more analyzing White America which was SO MUCH FUN. Good times.

Monday was sad goodbyes and left late morning or so.



This is what my perfectionist self wants! No need to type up long posts if you don't remember anything. I defeated perfectionist self this year though thankfully. Vivdcon 2008 was definitely lots of fun.

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